Think Outside The Cage - Sunday, June 14, 2026

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12. Starting a war, screaming peace at the same time
13. All the corruption and justice, the same crimes
14. Always a problem if we do or don't fight
15. And we doubt we don't have the same right
16. What is a gun to a man that surrenders?
17. What's it gonna take for someone to defend her?
18. If we all agree that we're equal as people
19. Then why can't we see what is evil?
20. I can't breathe
21. You're taking my life from me
22. Good morning listeners
23. Welcome to another segment of Think Outside the Cage
24. I'm your host, Mark Cofield. We'll be here with you this lovely Sunday morning.
25. Those who'd like to participate in the discussion, you can call in at 818-985-5735.
26. That's 818-985-5735, option one.
27. All right, wasn't able to take calls last week. Hopefully everything is going good today.
28. so as I was watching the news I started reflecting back about how many times did Donald Trump say
29. we were getting ready to have an agreement with Iran the war was getting ready to be over
30. and so I googled it that's what I like about Google you can pretty much find out anything
31. you want to find out.
32. And Donald Trump said
33. on social media
34. and other news outlets
35. at least 38 times
36. that we are close
37. to an agreement with Iran.
38. 38 times.
39. Not three times,
40. four times,
41. 38 times.
42. He think we suckers, man.
43. Well, I ain't no sucker. I don't know about those of you who continue continuing to believe this baloney he's trying to cook.
44. That baloney is nasty. It don't taste good at all.
45. and
46. I also wanted to know
47. because I did hear him say
48. during the campaign that he wouldn start no wars He would end the wars He said that at least 12 times
49. during his campaign.
50. And he reiterated it
51. on the day he was elected
52. saying,
53. I'm not going to start wars.
54. Rather, I'll be the one that end them.
55. He claimed he was going to end Russia and Ukraine.
56. He didn't do that.
57. But what he did do is made up this story about Iran having a nuclear weapon.
58. Now, see, this is the problem of being close to having a nuclear weapon.
59. Here's my problem with this.
60. All this was known while he was running during the campaign.
61. so why he didn't say I'm not going to start
62. any wars
63. the only wars I'm going to start
64. or the only war I would probably get involved in
65. is against Iran
66. because I know they're close to
67. having a nuclear weapon
68. but he didn't say that
69. he didn't say he was going to go over to Venezuela
70. and start
71. kidnapping
72. heads of state
73. talking about doing it in Cuba.
74. He didn't talk about none of these things.
75. He did not.
76. Prove me wrong.
77. And the problem
78. that I have
79. is trying to convince people
80. to still roll in with this dude.
81. And the evidence is right in front of you
82. and you refuse to acknowledge it.
83. I told you I've been around liars, thieves, robbers, murderers, kidnappers.
84. I've been around thugs all my life.
85. Everything that the Trump administration is displaying is that of gang members.
86. It's that of gangsters.
87. You know, and think about it.
88. He loves to surround himself around violence.
89. you know on his birthday he want to have a cage match fight at the white house who does that
90. me myself personally i don't even like that cage fighting crap i've seen that stuff in the streets
91. la all my life you know it just people took that violence and put it inside the cage
92. that's some old gladiator crap man but that's what he wants and he found a way to make some
93. money off of it making some 250 he made 12 250 pendants you know to sell for the first 12 000
94. people.
95. Everything
96. about this man is
97. money,
98. violence.
99. He said,
100. he said,
101. oh, we took Venezuela's
102. oil, we're taking their oil.
103. Oh, we're taking
104. Iran's oil.
105. He's saying
106. this.
107. And when you say, man, ain't that
108. robbery ain that stealing you know oh well you know but i heard someone say that we supposed to be a nation of laws we supposed to be a nation that respect other countries sovereignty
109. That's out the window.
110. Now, with all the illegal things
111. this Trump administration have done,
112. what if another country decided
113. they want to come over here
114. and loot our resources,
115. capturing, kidnap our politicians.
116. How would you feel about that?
117. I don't, you know, hypocrites.
118. And then when someone calls it out,
119. oh, they're not American.
120. Oh, they're not.
121. they don't stand for
122. American values.
123. Yeah.
124. Alright.
125. I don't know what else to say.
126. I don't have to say it.
127. All you got to do is pay attention
128. and watch what this
129. what this administration is doing.
130. And I've already conceded
131. over and over and over again
132. that the Democrats is
133. they're just as bad
134. the only thing that separates them
135. from the Republicans as far as I'm concerned
136. when dealing with the black community
137. is they're not trying to take away
138. the rights
139. that we have gained
140. they're not trying to
141. take away to strip away the
142. Constitution
143. they might be
144. maybe trying to broaden
145. a little
146. more, but they're not trying to take it away.
147. Donald Trump doing his campaign.
148. Epstein files.
149. Everybody.
150. Epstein files in that Republican Party was on the Epstein files.
151. So I'm going to have my technical engineer, Irene, play a clip of what Marjorie.
152. You guys remember Marjorie Green Taylor, right?
153. Listen to what she has to say right now.
154. There's also a new report out today.
155. an extensive report that's in the New York Times. And it's based on Maggie Haberman and Jonathan
156. Swan's upcoming new book that's about to be published called Regime Change. And they write
157. in this new report today about how the release of the Epstein files debating over how to handle
158. Jeffrey Epstein basically paralyzed the White House. And there were meetings in the Situation
159. Room even where obviously, you know, of the utmost national security concern, meetings pertaining to
160. that happened. When you read that and you hear that the president's team, the vice president,
161. the chief of staff, everyone's meeting inside the sit room about Jeffrey Epstein, what does it tell
162. you about how they viewed that story? Well, unfortunately, that's not new news to me.
163. Unfortunately, that was something that I lived through. I watched the speaker of the House
164. shut down the government for and keep the House completely out of session for eight weeks in the
165. fall of 2025 simply because he was under orders of the president and his team not to do anything
166. in the House of Representatives because they were doing everything they could do to stop that
167. resolution from passing the House. The same resolution that I signed the discharge petition
168. to force to a vote on the floor. I'm not surprised by this news, Caitlin, because I also had a very
169. uncomfortable phone call with the president before the release of the Epstein files where he told me that his friends would get hurt if the files were released and I never forget that I also never forget the text message he sent me when I told him that
170. my son's life was being threatened because he was calling me a traitor because I fought to release
171. the Epstein files where he told me that I deserved it. And so this doesn't shock me that his team was
172. paralyzed. But I tell you what it is. It's absolutely ridiculous and unforgivable. We're
173. talking about pedophiles and rapists of the elite class of people that never get held accountable
174. for anything. So if they were paralyzed and scared and didn't know what to do about releasing the
175. Epstein files, these people are absolutely absurd. They don't deserve the American people's trust.
176. As a matter of fact, we should consider them as they should be considered traitors.
177. They're traitors.
178. The ones that refuse to release Epstein files want to cover up for pedophiles and rapists
179. and all sorts of disgusting things in these files.
180. Those are the traitors to the American people, and they should be ashamed of themselves.
181. This report basically says it was the president who didn't want anything released.
182. Are you saying that that applies to the president himself?
183. I'm saying exactly that.
184. He told me on the phone that his friends would get hurt. And that's why he's against releasing the Epstein files. And I think we've seen a lot of that dribble out. So, yeah, it all matches.
185. There's also a new. All right. Now, that was now I know those of you listening.
186. Remember Marjorie Green Taylor? She was probably one of Trump's biggest supporters.
187. And a big riff came between them behind the Epstein files.
188. And you just heard her say that the reason why he didn't want those files released is because of his friends.
189. Now, listen, one thing I give Trump an A-plus on is loyalty to his billionaire friends.
190. Man, he'll launch a nuclear missile for them.
191. I get a sense
192. and I understand
193. the reason why a lot of people
194. fail for Donald Trump
195. they actually
196. and why a lot of them don't want to give up on him
197. because he is a kind of
198. charismatic
199. you know
200. guy
201. he's funny
202. He makes me laugh. He he says some things and I laugh.
203. I'll be cracking up, you know, and. He's he's someone that that you just like to listen to.
204. He's kind of like a down to earth person in a low down dirty way, though.
205. and
206. what I knew from the beginning
207. is
208. I come from a
209. area
210. where people
211. struggle to pay their bills
212. and this has been through all the administrations
213. whether it was Democrat
214. or Republican
215. I've come from a
216. community to where
217. law enforcement don't treat you fair
218. in my community
219. you're liable to get pulled over
220. you know for something
221. as
222. as simple as
223. a
224. taillight
225. The little light over the license plate not working and end up getting shot and killed behind that pullover versus in being in Beverly Hills or something.
226. You could ride around without a license plate on at all and probably not get pulled over.
227. So I've I've been around.
228. Unfairness and these type of things all my life.
229. And so when Donald Trump was running, I looked at his background and he has never endured or been through what I've been through.
230. So how can he relate to me?
231. Now you could take away all his
232. The accusations against him of sexual assaults
233. And cheating on his wives
234. And cheating on his taxes
235. You could take away all those accusations against him
236. And I still wouldn't have voted for him
237. Because he's not aligned with me
238. as far as the things that I've been through.
239. And when people voted for him thinking he was going to be aligned with him,
240. especially the people in the communities where I come from,
241. and I don't care what state it is, if you come from a community
242. where there's a lot of poverty and there's a lot of suffering
243. and homelessness and things like that going on,
244. and you went ahead and experimented with your vote and voted for him,
245. this is what you got in return.
246. Because he's not aligned with your values.
247. You voted against your values.
248. And this is what I'm trying to get you to understand.
249. He said he don't care about inflation.
250. He said he don't care about people struggling.
251. He has said this and you still don't believe him?
252. wake up
253. now if you someone
254. like
255. Eli Musk
256. that just turned into a trillionaire
257. they said
258. Eli Musk's income
259. his wealth
260. he's like the
261. 14th
262. richest economy
263. in the world.
264. Not man.
265. His wealth is that of economies.
266. Oh my goodness.
267. All that wealth
268. and he can't think of nothing to do
269. but cut people jobs away.
270. But this is what you voted for.
271. Voting have consequences.
272. They always say
273. There's consequences to how you cast your vote.
274. Now you're getting them.
275. So this Trump administration, as far as I'm concerned, I agree with Marjorie Green Taylor.
276. I probably never agree with her on anything, but I will agree with her on this, that they are traitors.
277. They are.
278. They ran on the campaign like they care.
279. but those of you
280. who don't know the game
281. you don't know that they was running game
282. and that's all they was doing
283. was telling you something
284. but all you had to do was think about it Trump ain never lived in a housing project Trump ain never had to struggle on bills Trump probably never even had to pay a bill It probably already paid in advance for him
285. The only thing he's probably ever, ever had to do
286. is sit around and be chauffeured around.
287. Maybe sign some checks.
288. They probably would bounce.
289. You ain't careful.
290. Let me get Paul from Harbor City.
291. You on the line, Paul?
292. Hey, good morning, Mark.
293. Can you hear me okay?
294. Yeah, I hear you loud and clear.
295. What's on your mind this morning, bro?
296. Terrific.
297. Something you just said just now about Donald Trump doesn't know anything about what it's like to be a regular person.
298. I remember George Herbert Walker Bush saying back in the 90s about how he was so surprised about how supermarkets have these automatic checkouts where you scan the code over.
299. And he was just amazed about how, I mean, good Lord, all this technology shows that these people have no idea what it's like to be a citizen, to be a worker, to have to go through daily life.
300. another thing you said earlier about how you think that Donald Trump, he's a joke. He, he's,
301. he's, sometimes he makes you laugh. Okay. And I can see that that's, that's perfectly fine.
302. But the thing is this, when Donald Trump, when he first ran back in 2016, he said that, um,
303. that he,
304. God damn, I lost it.
305. Man.
306. Figure it out.
307. Figure it out.
308. I lost it, man.
309. Anyways, the guy's got no idea
310. what it's like to be a regular person
311. to have to go through daily life.
312. So,
313. anyways,
314. it's frustrating
315. listen Paul I think
316. those who are listening get the gist
317. of what you're trying to say
318. I know I get it you know
319. he's a bum just straight up
320. he's a straight up bum
321. he's a millionaire bum
322. a billionaire bum
323. that man have made more money
324. in the one year he's been president than what he
325. made through his whole lifetime
326. so that is obvious all you have
327. to do is do
328. I love math.
329. I used to hate math.
330. But I love it now because when you calculate it up and you use the right formula,
331. you're going to always get the right answer.
332. And all you got to do is calculate all the BS this man been doing,
333. and you're going to get the right answer.
334. He's a bum, a con man, a robber, a thief, murderer.
335. He's all the things I mentioned from the very beginning.
336. So listen, Paul, I appreciate your call.
337. Hey, Mark, Mark, I got it.
338. Okay, go ahead.
339. He said he could go out on Fifth Avenue and he could shoot anybody and he could get away with it because he was Donald Trump.
340. That was one thing.
341. The other thing he said was that women expect him to go up to them, women, and grab their private parts.
342. That was just two of the examples of the disgrace that this person is Okay thank you you you you back You reminded me of it I appreciate that Mark I appreciate your show
343. Thank you very much.
344. Thank you, Paul.
345. I appreciate you.
346. I appreciate the call.
347. Okay, let's get to Ben from out of Buena Park.
348. You on the line, Ben?
349. Yeah, Mark.
350. Good morning.
351. Good morning, Ben.
352. Good morning.
353. Good morning.
354. You know, Trump, he's got the Midas touch without the D.
355. That would be the my ass touch.
356. See, everything he touches turns to ass, and the D is ass.
357. Exhibit A, Iran.
358. Exhibit A as he can so he won't look so bad.
359. You know, that's something to ponder on.
360. That's something to think about.
361. It really is
362. Alright
363. Ben you always
364. You always give me
365. Something to think about
366. I tell you boy
367. Alright
368. Maybe you ought to be
369. On this mic sometimes
370. Alright man
371. You have a good one
372. Alright
373. So I'm going to have my
374. Technical engineer
375. Irene play another clip
376. And then I'm going to
377. Commentate on it a little bit
378. After she plays it
379. As everybody knows
380. I believe in offering
381. Diverse perspectives
382. On this show
383. So my next guest
384. represent just that.
385. One is a progressive civil rights advocate, entrepreneur,
386. and the founder of Civics for the People.
387. The other is a former Arizona police officer
388. turned conservative U2 political commentator
389. and a staunch MAGA supporter.
390. Please welcome back to yours truly,
391. Straight Shooter with yours truly,
392. the one and only Gary Chambers Jr.
393. and Officer Brandon Tatum.
394. Both have been on this show before. I loved having them on, so I want to invite them both back on again.
395. What's up, fellas? How y'all doing?
396. Thanks, man. How you doing?
397. I'm doing all right.
398. After last night, man.
399. I'm not good. You're right. I'm not good. I'm not good after the Knicks lost, Devin.
400. I'm not good, but I'm going to get over it right now for the purposes of this conversation.
401. Let's get right to it. Right now, the state of America is what, in your mind, Gary Chambers?
402. Give it to me. How do you view America right now under the Trump administration? Part two.
403. We are divided and unorganized. I think that the Trump administration has brought a whole lot of chaos, very few solutions to the working class people's problem and a fundamental lack of organization.
404. Everything within his administration is a response to something that's taking place with somebody else.
405. He doesn't have a real plan about how to address anything.
406. We're at war. Gas prices are high.
407. Food prices are still up.
408. And Donald Trump is lying to the people every day on TV.
409. And the lives of regular, everyday working class people in America are not improving.
410. Officer Tatum, your response to that would be what as a conservative?
411. Well, I disagree. I think that we're going through some growing pains.
412. But Donald Trump has made a concerted effort to help with the economy.
413. He's trying to get tariffs put into place. Obviously, he's getting pushback on many of those things.
414. The war is necessary. I mean, there are certain times where we have to get into conflict with different countries.
415. And I think that Donald Trump has a solution. I believe that we're going to resolve this war very quickly.
416. And we're going to see gas prices go down. Us controlling the Strait of Hormuz, us controlling things in Venezuela and Cuba and all of those things.
417. and also Trump trying to gain some leverage in Greenland.
418. All of the things that Donald Trump is doing
419. is doing things that gonna improve the country which most other presidents were too cowardice to do So somebody have to prevent pushing the can down the road and actually taking a tough position of trying to make things better
420. I do think that President Trump is on the right track. I think that there's obstacles.
421. Let's give him the rest of his term and let's see how it pan out.
422. Gary, when you hear somebody and listen, it's not an accident.
423. I want I wanted to two black men on this show to start off something that I'm going to be doing a lot of black men, black women, you know, conservatives.
424. liberals of all ethnicities. I'm not going to shy away from any of it. But considering the fact that
425. both of y'all are black, like myself, I wanted to ask you when you hear Officer Tatum highlight
426. the things that he believes that Donald Trump is doing right. And he talks about how the liberals
427. essentially would not have done a better job, whether it's Kamala Harris, whether it's Joe
428. Biden or whomever. You know, when you hear what he explains and how he explains it,
429. how can we take issue with that in your estimation? I fundamentally disagree with him.
430. If this war was going to be resolved as quick as Donald Trump said it would have been, it would have been resolved months ago.
431. Instead, Brian Kemp just had to let the gas tax back into place.
432. Thirty three cents added to the average Georgia driver's gas daily in order to cover the expenses of the state of Georgia because Donald Trump started this war.
433. The other aspect, when you look at this, this has exposed America's weakness because you were supposed to go in there and devour this country the way that you said you would in a matter of days.
434. And then with drones and all types of things, they've drugged you into a much long war that has increased the cost of living for the people of America.
435. And you talk about Greenland being a benefit. I'm from Louisiana.
436. Jeff Landry, my governor, is off on these quests in Greenland about trying to make Greenland a part of this country.
437. My state ranks 50 in the nation. We rank number 49 in economic opportunity.
438. We rank number 50 in crime. We have one of the worst education systems in the country.
439. One of the most terrible health care systems in the country.
440. And my governor, on the request of the president that you supported, is spending time in Greenland rather than fixing the conditions of the people of Louisiana.
441. And so I think that conservatives do a lot of talking around issues. But when you talk about the real meat and potatoes, Mississippi, Louisiana, Alabama, South Carolina, Arkansas, some of the lowest ranked states in the country, all of their governors are Republican. All of their legislatures are majority, super majority Republicans. So you can't tell me if the worst places to live in America are led by super majority Republicans. How in the hell are those people the answer to the problems of the American people?
442. All right. All right. Now, if for those of you who may want to watch that, it's actually good.
443. You get a perspective of two black men and and and Stephen A.
444. Smith being independent. So let's just say three black men, because they all chime in on the conversation.
445. You get three different opinions and views. And it's really interesting.
446. You can watch that Stephen A. Smith, and the topic is, Can America Be Fixed?
447. I really enjoyed it, and I'll commentate a little bit on it, but I'm going to get to another caller.
448. Then I'll come back to it.
449. All right, let's get to Harold from Santa Barbara.
450. You on the line, Harold?
451. Yes, I am, and thank you.
452. I have two questions and one request.
453. I'll go with the request first.
454. Please don't put our buddy on there.
455. Don't.
456. We hear his spiel every day.
457. Now, my first question is, why are you talking about Trump when you had a practice run by I.
458. officials doing invasion in LA. And my second question is, look at the Democratic Party
459. and look at the relationship of nuisance. Yes, nuisance. It's very important. You have
460. intelligent listeners. Sunday is perfect. We're barely having our coffee, our donuts. Well,
461. I have to lay off donuts, but please, we don't need about Trump.
462. We need L.A. We have to save our city.
463. Well, your city. I'm sorry.
464. Well, I'm going to address all three of them as far as your request.
465. Look, you know, I'm a I'm a fair person, Harold.
466. And I know some people, you know, every everything that people come on here, whether they're progressive or they're conservative.
467. You know, there's been some things that progressive people have said that I don't like.
468. And sometimes us being against those who have the outlandish conservative values, we start acting the way they act on trying to censor them.
469. And I just don't believe in censorship.
470. I just don't believe in taking away a person's, you know, right to have an opinion.
471. That's my first address.
472. That's the second about why am I talking about Trump?
473. Because Trump is the issue.
474. Trump is the issue that's trying to he's trying to you're talking about L.A.
475. Let's focus on L.A.
476. It's hard to focus on L.A. when this man trying to rig the elections in L.A.
477. He trying to send ICE and other CIA operatives and stuff down here to start seizing ballots and doing these type of things.
478. We can't take the focus off of Trump.
479. You know, I acknowledge Gavin Newsom.
480. and I love Gavin Newsom.
481. I wish he could...
482. That's what I thought.
483. No, I love Gavin Newsom.
484. You know, Gavin Newsom did a lot of good for California.
485. People could talk about what they want about this man,
486. but we still hold the number four economy in the world.
487. We still have the strongest economy in America.
488. So he can say what he wants to say
489. and people, they can say about what they want to say.
490. And if it wasn't for Gavin Newsom
491. and the policies that he put in place,
492. You know how many people losing their health care?
493. I just went to the doctor the other day and they told me my health care was no longer covered through them.
494. This is the stuff that's going on.
495. And I'm sure I'm not the only one going through this.
496. So, yeah, so this is why this is why I'm talking about Trump, because it's through him.
497. They're signed to all this garbage that's affecting us.
498. The federal government affects us.
499. What they're trying to do is take control and seize the where they the elections is ran through them now.
500. And now, man, so we got to stay focused. I'm not saying don't be focused on the governor's election.
501. I'm not saying don't be focused on the mayor election, whichever municipality you in.
502. I'm not saying not to be focused on that. But we cannot take our eye off the biggest.
503. trouble
504. part of what's going on.
505. The biggest
506. reason why we're going
507. through what we're going through now is him.
508. He's the one that has flipped that Republican
509. Party to be a bunch of robots.
510. He's the one.
511. He's the one that made that
512. Republican Party
513. a cow down to him
514. to where they're scared to breathe now.
515. You see what happens when they breathe
516. against him? He primaries them out
517. of their positions.
518. You quite right but the point is Trump has already been successful They already here in California And talking about how a nuisance has been done so good Why don you talk to the people in San Luis Obispo Well I talking for Santa Barbara
519. They should have shut down that nuclear power plant years ago. Why is it open? Because of AI.
520. Where is all our water going? AI. And in terms of him doing so good in healthcare,
521. you should talk to
522. I apologize
523. you answered my question
524. so thank you
525. okay Harold and I understand
526. listen
527. no politician is perfect
528. and I'm sure Newsom has
529. done some things
530. that
531. I'm not sure
532. I know he has done some things
533. that I don't agree with
534. there's a lot of things that the Democratic Party
535. do that I disagree
536. with, you know, for my reasons. But one thing that always pulls me over to their side is because
537. they're not trying to take away things. Look, people have fought, have fought hard, sweat.
538. People have lost their lives for the gains that we've made. And they just come through and take
539. it at the stroke of a pen. That's disrespectful. That don't resonate. I can't stand someone who
540. would disrespect someone and just just scrape over them like they know bodies like like that's good
541. that's good because of in arizona ask those three democrats why they supported trump so you
542. you brought out an excellent point and i thank you for that yes so harold i um i appreciate
543. your call i hope i answered your questions i tried to answer you did and um you know um you know um
544. I don't know what, I think you say you are the Santa Barbara?
545. Yes.
546. So, you know, things that's not going on there, that's why you, that's not going on there,
547. that's, that represents your values, that's why you, that's why you have a vote.
548. That's why you have a vote and you have a voice.
549. And you know, if things are not going on right there, then stand against that.
550. Always stand against, always stand against the things that are wrong and stand for what's right.
551. All right, Harold.
552. Thank you and have a good day.
553. All right, yes.
554. so getting back to the Stephen A. Smith
555. the two individuals that was on the show
556. I listened to the whole show
557. it's about an hour and 15-20 minutes long
558. and they both had some interesting things to say
559. the officer Tatum
560. I agreed with him on some of the things he said
561. One of the things that he said that I agree with is that the Democrats have been in power in Los Angeles and a lot of urban areas throughout the country.
562. And the conditions of the black people haven't really gotten any better.
563. now and another thing he said that i agree with is that
564. i don't want to make this about the conditions of black people or the conditions of white people i
565. want to make it about the conditions of the people that live in those communities i i don't like
566. putting race on it but sometimes race is there because that's the predominantly of the people
567. who live there so that why it it comes up but he did make some valid points about that And then the other guy his name was Chambers Gary Chambers
568. He made some good points that, well, the reason why some of these things are happening in these urban areas is because of the federal government.
569. And they're not trickling down the money in certain areas.
570. Like, let's just say if you have a governor in Louisiana, he's a hateful governor, a racist governor, that he would get the money and only maybe five million might be distributed to this poor community when 30 million will be distributed to a community that's already flourishing.
571. You know, so it's it's it's it's I would recommend anybody to just listen to it because you get a perspective of two black men, one a conservative, one a progressive.
572. And is Stephen Smith being independent?
573. So it's the Stephen A. Smith show.
574. And is can America be fixed?
575. All right. Let's get the Brent from L.A.
576. You on the line, Brent.
577. Back by popular caller demand, I wish you a very progressive pedophile pride month, Mark.
578. Hey, hey, hey, man. What's on your mind this morning?
579. Well, just as nothing provides progressive Democratic men more pride than their Democratic right to rape boys,
580. Nothing provides woke Democratic women more pride than aborting their happy, healthy, holy babies.
581. And so generously, I want to offer woke women and transgendering birth givers a diversely inclusive and equitable MAGA compromise wherein woke mothers be allowed to abort their blessed babies at any Black Lives Matter Planned Parenthood Medical Center,
582. but only after they first abort the sperm givers who impregnated and abandoned them.
583. And secondly, they look at an ultrasound of their miraculous, beautiful babies.
584. They have been heartlessly brainwashed into believing they have a satanic, democratic right to slaughter.
585. Since America's miraculous birth 250 years ago,
586. woke women have chosen to be the weakest, most manipulated, most godless women in our great and glorious history.
587. And mournfully, woke women also have chosen to abort their womanhood, their wisdom, self-respect, honor, dignity, hearts, minds, and souls.
588. Bryn, let me ask you a question because you've said this more than one time.
589. You put emphasis on black when it comes to the abortion.
590. Do you think blacks are the only people who get abortions?
591. No, but they are 40% of the abortions at Planned Parenthood,
592. and 20 million black babies have been aborted since Roe v. Wade.
593. And so this is the greatest genocide, or one of the greatest genocides in history.
594. More black babies are aborted than are birthed in America.
595. I'm going to have to look that up.
596. I'm going to have to look that up.
597. I did not know that.
598. Now, I told you, I have conservative values when it comes to that issue right there.
599. But I don't like to pose my will on someone else.
600. So, Brent, I'm going to get to some other callers, but thanks for the calls.
601. But I going to look that up though You told me something on 40 I did not know that And so you know I comment on it next week when you call
602. Outstanding. Alright, okay.
603. Let's get to Carlos. Carson, you on the line?
604. Carlos?
605. Carlos, you there?
606. Yeah, I'm here. I'm here.
607. What's on your mind? Well, you know,
608. Trump has never tasted
609. poverty. You know, no way.
610. But just to be fair,
611. Neither did Al Gore flying an expensive jet while preaching GIA, you know, the environmental concerns.
612. GIA and all these expensive trips he was taking, you know, polluting the air.
613. Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton never tasted property.
614. And so on.
615. It's on both sides, you know, but I do agree that Trump is a con artist, you know.
616. And he's got us in a war in Iran, which you notice we're in a roller coaster there.
617. And he knows what the roller coaster is going to look like.
618. So he is making money off the stock market because he's got the advanced knowledge how things are going to go.
619. So all his shorties and himself are making lots of money, you know.
620. But listen, I want to get to my main point here.
621. There's such thing as a National Defense Authorization Act that Obama passed.
622. It's going to be upgraded so that the merger of the American military and the Israeli military
623. takes place, including all the intelligence that goes with it.
624. to say that Israel has never gotten
625. American intelligence
626. through devious means,
627. Jonathan Pollard,
628. an Israeli giving secrets
629. to Israel and them
630. being pardoned, you know.
631. No, but this is, they're going to
632. be right there in front of all the
633. intelligence, but what's worse?
634. Americans are going to be conscripted
635. when the draft comes
636. into fighting Israeli wars,
637. which are not our wars.
638. Not only that, citizens
639. across the world that are Americans
640. will be conscripted to fight
641. Israeli wars.
642. This is an
643. abomination,
644. a scourge on
645. American dignity.
646. And, you know, that shows
647. who really controls
648. our country, which is Israel.
649. Israel tells us what
650. to do. And you ask yourself,
651. how can a little puny
652. nation like that,
653. I mean, they really don't control things.
654. Sure they do.
655. If you go back through history, all the international bankers, like the Rothschilds, the Rockefellers,
656. all them people have had ties with the state of Israel.
657. In fact, Rothschilds funded the state of Israel.
658. These are international bankers.
659. They control our economies totally through the central bank, the Federal Reserve Board,
660. the Bank of England, the Bank of Germany, the Bank of Italy, the Bank of Mexico, the Bank of France.
661. Those are all controlled by all these Israeli-connected people.
662. Okay, so that's why they have so much power, because they control our economy.
663. They could collapse our economy if they chose to at any one moment,
664. because they control the Federal Reserve, or they control the interest rate.
665. They could collapse it just like they did in 1929.
666. It was due to the Federal Reserve Board because they were so, they were, they, they.
667. facilitated loans at first so everybody could get into debt.
668. And then when the trouble started occurring, people tried to go borrow money.
669. They said, no, you can't borrow money.
670. So that ensured the collapse of the 1929 depression
671. and all the other depressions we have had ever since, okay?
672. So, I mean, it really irritates me and angers me
673. when I see the control of Israel over most of the countries, including my Mexico.
674. They're all over the place in Mexico.
675. Okay, Carlos, I got to wrap it up.
676. I got to wrap it up, Carlo.
677. Okay.
678. All right.
679. Okay.
680. Take care.
681. Thanks for the call.
682. Okay.
683. Let's get to Antoinette out of Sunset Beach.
684. Hey, good morning.
685. Good morning.
686. Good morning, Antoinette.
687. What's on your mind this morning?
688. Well, first off, I want to say happy birthday, President Trump.
689. Enjoy your day.
690. And this is a glorious day.
691. Happy birthday, President Trump.
692. And as for all the festivities and everything we're enjoying,
693. we definitely here in the United States of America, we live heaven on earth, you guys.
694. We really, really do.
695. As for Stephen A., I'm somewhat a little disappointed in the man.
696. He's been saying some things that I don't agree with.
697. But Officer Tatum, great guy.
698. I've met him a couple of times over these last, I'm going to say,
699. seven years that I've met different conservatives over different areas throughout our country.
700. I'm very blessed in that as being a Latina, just born in East LA and growing up in Central LA,
701. I'm very grateful. I have to say, unfortunately, it wasn't school books that mentored me. It was
702. the movies and different things I've done over the years, but the movies definitely were my mentors.
703. As for the war and what the president said, he wasn't going to do this, he wasn't going to do that, and whether the president has never been poor and has always been rich and doesn't experience what we've gone through, a lot of people understand, you guys, that there's a lot of things that, no, I won't be a queen because I've never been of a royal family there in England.
704. But there are things that presidents know and information that they get that we don't get.
705. We're the lay people.
706. Yes, we're the citizens.
707. But his main job is to protect us.
708. And through his information and his different agencies, they know stuff that we don't.
709. And that's his job is to protect us all, not just a few of us.
710. as for the health care here in our state of California,
711. just like in the other couple of states,
712. that unfortunately there's been a lot of fraud
713. and unfortunately there's been a lot of theft of our taxpayer monies.
714. And this is why one of the things he had to stop certain things,
715. and I understand what you're saying, Mark,
716. that your insurance, your health insurance, and it's affecting a lot of us.
717. but he had to stop that in order to extract the people that are frauding us he's going to start
718. it up again but right now we're all suffering with the gas prices with food with health insurance
719. and i know it hurts us all and i don't like it but you know what if we could be tougher just like
720. the people in japan that they were saying that because we've become so weak and the reason we've
721. become so weak is because we have had so much and not had to suffer.
722. So if we guys all of us as American citizens all of us as Californians if we could stand tough for just a couple more months you guys are going to be surprised
723. I was an investor for a number of years.
724. Listen, listen.
725. And we're going to make money.
726. You are going to make money.
727. Listen, listen.
728. What?
729. I don't buy it.
730. Let me tell you this.
731. Okay.
732. No problem.
733. Just let me say this right quick because I'm going to have to get some more calls.
734. But let me say this right quick.
735. You're talking about suffering and going through it.
736. I done been suffering and going through it all my life as being somebody from the community where I come from.
737. So, you know, when is he going to suffer?
738. He's not biting a bullet.
739. He's not going through it.
740. He's riding around having cage fights.
741. He's having cage fights for his birthday, building ballrooms, doing all this stuff.
742. Listen, listen, listen.
743. Okay, well, you continue to roll with him and suffer while I'm a vote for somebody who's going to take me out of that.
744. We're all suffering right now, my darlings.
745. Well, no, no, no, no, no.
746. You can't be going through, you cannot be going through, you cannot be going through what the average person going through is still riding with this dude.
747. Okay, Antoinette, thanks for the call.
748. I appreciate it.
749. All right, let's get to Leo out of East L.A.
750. You on the line, Leo?
751. Hello.
752. All right, what's on your mind this morning, bro?
753. Hello, Mark and listeners.
754. Hello.
755. Good morning.
756. Yeah.
757. Yeah, I just want to bring up a point that on Memorial Day, Pope Leo XIV put out on Vatican TV an apology for the doctrines of discovery from back in 1492.
758. And then he went into a little blurb about saying, I'm apologizing for what these doctrines of discovery did in creating the transatlantic slave trade.
759. But what I just want to bring a point is that there is a real good book.
760. You have to know your history before you can talk about the future.
761. And it's called Pagans in the Promised Land by Stephen Newcomb.
762. And I've heard lectures and talks on KPSK by this gentleman,
763. which I think the listeners should go on Google and get a copy of this book
764. to read what has occurred since 1492, all 533 years of this doctrine and Columbus and, hey, Christianity being here on this continent.
765. Okay? That is my point.
766. Okay, okay, thank you for the call.
767. Thank you for the call, Neil.
768. Don't forget, oh wait, wait, just one other thing, please.
769. If you can reread your Declaration of Independence, and then on there, you'll find that there are 18 sentences that start with,
770. he has, talking about King George III, in which he states on the 18th, his racist,
771. whoever wrote the Declaration of Independence
772. states on their racism big time about Indians.
773. Okay?
774. All right.
775. Okay, Leo, thanks for the call.
776. Okay, let's get the stand from out of East L.A.
777. You on the line, Stan?
778. I am on the line.
779. Thank you.
780. East L.A., she got a boy internet, man.
781. She has her head way up in a place where the moon don't shine.
782. She's horrible.
783. but they have uh... here are the things i called uh... sylvester uh...
784. rivers uh left and he said email me about the solutions that you have you know solutions unite nations done and uh uh so the solution necessary in our nation there are two of them
785. uh... the first is recognizing what nobody talks about this what was stated
786. uh...
787. two or a year more two years ago
788. that about hamilton's uh...
789. uh...
790. financial banking
791. system
792. And Jefferson said, we can pay off his debt in 15 years, but we can never get rid of his financial system.
793. It's the financial system we're in.
794. It's what's running the world, and it's what Jefferson said and Martin Luther King said.
795. Wealth without character is the path to destruction, and that's the path we're on.
796. The way to unite, starting in our nation, is all females be a stand against rape of any kind, molesting children, any and all of it.
797. If we can create a movement of females doing that, because females of all parties, of all persuasions, I'm pretty sure every one of them would say, yes, let's get together and stop that nonsense.
798. It's horrible what males do.
799. And it's called, well, it's called heterosexual patriarchal government control.
800. And that's where we need to impact.
801. Because these Trump people and Clintons and Reagan, all of them, that whole male thing needs to be, if not stopped, stunted greatly.
802. Okay.
803. Thank you very much.
804. Okay, Stan, thanks for the call.
805. Okay, let's get to Lynette from out of L.A.
806. You on the line, Lynette?
807. Good morning.
808. Good morning.
809. What's on your mind this morning?
810. Yeah, you're the very last one.
811. What's on your mind?
812. Reparations in memory of our ancestors.
813. We know that the stroke continues with all ways.
814. May God be the glory.
815. Did you see what the Trumps have been trying to do with the neocolonialism
816. and buying those islands over there?
817. And it's been protest, I mean, for at least the last couple of weeks.
818. I mean, thousands of people out in the streets saying, go back home, colonizers.
819. And Dr. King and them were saying this a long time ago about integrating into a burning house.
820. And if we are to integrate or not, or just become firemen.
821. And right now we need all hands on deck because this colonial fire has been going on for hundreds of years.
822. that the Pope has had to apologize for, and we need democracy.
823. We don't need a race down to the bottom of the rabbit hole,
824. the endless bottomless rabbit hole that we have found ourselves in for hundreds of years
825. with this anti-democracy and this racial segregation and apartheid and Jim Crow, Jane Crow,
826. and you name it, slavery, colonization, trip that America's been on for these hundreds of years,
827. and get right with God.
828. Thank you for taking my call.
829. God bless you.
830. All right, Lynette, you have a blessing.
831. Appreciate the Sunday sermon.
832. All right, now.
833. All right, so listen.
834. I get it.
835. You know, sometimes it can make you angry and it can make you upset
836. when you hear someone say something that is totally not aligned with what's going
837. on in your life no you had I had it was a caller called in and you know she said that she likes suffering She liked going through the pain and hardship that this administration is sending us through
838. I don't like it.
839. I don't like it.
840. We were promised something totally different from that.
841. And through this administration, through this Trump administration, all I've seen is things that were gained being taken away.
842. Things that people fought hard for.
843. You got a military right now that don't want to even advance someone because of the color of their skin.
844. people have been the military have always tried to be probably one of the fairest
845. entities we have in this country and now you have this pete hefset guy
846. denying people promotions because of the color of their skin
847. this not it's not working it's not working i don't care what you say this is not working
848. This administration is not working. To me, this is a failed presidency.
849. And I'm a stand on that. And I'm a continue to stand on that.
850. Because I don't see it getting any better. I don't see getting nothing but worse.
851. With that being said, my show's coming to a close.
852. I appreciate the callers. It don't matter whether you're progressive or conservative.
853. Hey, you know, you got a right to say and feel what you feel.
854. But that don't necessarily mean I'm agree with you.
855. that being said I'm going to close this show out
856. I want to thank my techno engineer Irene
857. and hey I'm out of here
858. I wish I knew how it would feel to be free
859. I wish I could break all the chains holding me
860. I wish I could say all the things that I should say
861. Say them loud, say them clear
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